tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post114839186647712360..comments2024-02-03T08:17:24.123-06:00Comments on Loud Time: David A. Zimmerman's Blog of Miscellany: It's (Not) Your ThingDavid Zimmermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148477998467366232006-05-24T08:39:00.000-05:002006-05-24T08:39:00.000-05:00Oh man, with Palmer being ceremonially buried and ...Oh man, with Palmer being ceremonially buried and Logan being carted off to prison? That was tremendous. I read yesterday that the guy who plays Aaron (Secret Service) ad libbed the line when he addressed Logan as "Charles" instead of "Mr. President."David Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148477485115391792006-05-24T08:31:00.000-05:002006-05-24T08:31:00.000-05:00Al Said:"I like being able to influence outcomes w...Al Said:<BR/><BR/>"I like being able to influence outcomes without bearing the weight of full responsibility if things tank."<BR/><BR/>I'm with you on that one...<BR/><BR/>Influence for me is a big trait to leadership. <BR/><BR/>Maybe I have a positive affect that I attach to that term, but personally leadership usually ties with it looking up to that person. Yes, Charles Logan is (was...haha) Pete Juvinallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11688790195308178112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148412911071205082006-05-23T14:35:00.000-05:002006-05-23T14:35:00.000-05:00I didn't mean to imply that others besides leaders...I didn't mean to imply that others besides leaders don't care about the overall organization. It's just that those in positional leadership bear the responsibility for the success of the whole organization. If I fail at my job (as a non-leader), it's not that big a deal for the organization - I can be replaced. But if a department head or vice president fails at his or her job, entire divisions Al Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04407264726681695790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148407335724355532006-05-23T13:02:00.000-05:002006-05-23T13:02:00.000-05:00Do only people in leadership roles have the larger...Do only people in leadership roles have the larger organization's interests in mind, or is it fidelity to the larger organization's interests that characterizes leadership? Again, is leadership a virtue or a condition?<BR/><BR/>Oh, it's probably both. I keep forgetting I'm postmodern.David Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148405718837052242006-05-23T12:35:00.000-05:002006-05-23T12:35:00.000-05:00Being a leader can mean that you don't get to do w...Being a leader can mean that you don't get to do what you want because you are empowering and equipping others to do the actual work. So what you want to get done will still get done - you just don't get to do it yourself. <BR/><BR/>I suppose it's also that when you're in a leadership role, you have the larger organization's interests in mind, not just your own. So you will do things on behalf ofAl Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04407264726681695790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148395432670355522006-05-23T09:43:00.000-05:002006-05-23T09:43:00.000-05:00In 24 terms, President David Palmer is a leader; P...In <I>24</I> terms, President David Palmer is a leader; President Charles Logan is a tyrant. That's if you assume leadership is a virtue rather than a condition. In another sense, both Palmer and Logan are leaders; it's just that Palmer is good and Logan is EVIL!<BR/><BR/>If leadership is an act of influence, then isn't it inherently getting people to do what you want them to do, which is at David Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-1148395009025757142006-05-23T09:36:00.000-05:002006-05-23T09:36:00.000-05:00Being a Leader does not equal being a tyrant; the ...Being a Leader does not equal being a tyrant; the difference between the two is that a leader doesn't get to do what he/she wants simply because they need to put others first. <BR/><BR/>Pragmatically, it's not because they want to be more spiritual or even follow Christ's example it's simply because if you don't put others first they won't follow you - the impression will be that they don't havePete Juvinallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11688790195308178112noreply@blogger.com