tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post8969915437832371386..comments2024-02-03T08:17:24.123-06:00Comments on Loud Time: David A. Zimmerman's Blog of Miscellany: Signing with the Enemy, Part DeuxDavid Zimmermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-88409306451942993782007-05-08T22:34:00.000-05:002007-05-08T22:34:00.000-05:00Congratulations! And, I'm buying your rationales. ...Congratulations! And, I'm buying your rationales. Very legitimate. If the book is as good as they are, I may just buy that, too. ;-)Kami Ricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10399152441936306086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-52482907386494373212007-05-06T16:57:00.000-05:002007-05-06T16:57:00.000-05:00That's great feedback, Dave -- thanks. What you sa...That's great feedback, Dave -- thanks. What you say about connecting with an audience is great, too, since each house has a distinct market they're reaching and you gotta discern whether the market for your book fits the markets they can reach.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, too, for the insight on how IVP works. Interesting to better know some the ins and outs of their philosophy, as that's a house I've christiannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06278757714101308785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-85135746614032588932007-05-05T11:08:00.000-05:002007-05-05T11:08:00.000-05:00Excellent question, Christianne. Different publish...Excellent question, Christianne. Different publishing houses have different guidelines about publishing their staff; IVP, as an extension of the campus Christian Fellowship, has for a long time seen staff as having expertise in an important field of publishing for us and an ethos that gels very well with the Press. A lot of our publishing staff have prior experience in campus ministry, and many David Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-55631599330439982092007-05-04T19:37:00.000-05:002007-05-04T19:37:00.000-05:00Loved this rationale, Dave. One thing I've wondere...Loved this rationale, Dave. One thing I've wondered all along is how people even get to the point where they get published by their own houses. That's not viewed as a conflict of interest or something? (Please take into consideration that I've always had a hard time understanding the definition of conflict of interest, so if you think it's a dumb question, at least there's a reason for it.)<BR/><christiannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06278757714101308785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-24578731359438359442007-05-03T14:32:00.000-05:002007-05-03T14:32:00.000-05:00Yep, The Purpose Driven Life is by far the excepti...Yep, The Purpose Driven Life is by far the exception in the publishing industry - according to Long Tail author Chris Anderson, the average book in America sells about 500 copies. (I've heard previous estimates that the average general market book sells about 5000 copies, but that might be New York publishing - Anderson's figures might include all indie publishing, academic publishing and Al Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04407264726681695790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-70626617396607121532007-05-03T11:49:00.000-05:002007-05-03T11:49:00.000-05:00I've been called worse. Read my post at Strangely ...I've been called worse. Read my post at Strangely Dim: <BR/><A>http://www.ivpress.com/campus/sd/archives/000466.php</A><BR/><BR/>Thanks for coming by, L. L. You're no stranger to the perils of publishing, I'm sure. And let me say I got my own chuckles from the name "jinglehells," so kudos to my anonymous commenter.David Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-73730549251436524302007-05-03T10:58:00.000-05:002007-05-03T10:58:00.000-05:00Is it okay for me to call you elliptical? That see...Is it okay for me to call you elliptical? That seems unkind. But you said it first, you did.<BR/><BR/>But I digress. Really I just wanted to say that all this makes complete sense, and in a humorous way too, over something of course that is no laughing matter. Congratulations. And thanks for making me chuckle.L.L. Barkathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333960142447144678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-53213272570135240192007-05-03T09:27:00.000-05:002007-05-03T09:27:00.000-05:00Well, I'm not comfortable outing the financial pra...Well, I'm not comfortable outing the financial practices of two publishing houses, so I'm not going to answer that question in a public forum. I will say that I was not motivated by money in my pursuit of either book contract--nor should anybody who is looking to publish in the Christian book industry. Most people don't get rich writing books, and those who do really need to search their soul, David Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736122606687383813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-27539100630641272242007-05-03T09:12:00.000-05:002007-05-03T09:12:00.000-05:00Just curious, did they offer you a lot more money ...Just curious, did they offer you a lot more money than IVP? do you just go where the money is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-4678637830038769632007-05-02T21:39:00.000-05:002007-05-02T21:39:00.000-05:00I think we all nodded our heads with "knowing" ove...I think we all nodded our heads with "knowing" over those visceral reactions and digressions.<BR/><BR/>The publishing industry is a lot more like junior high than I'd hoped. But then again, I did survive junior high somehow!<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for making this all a little more navigable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-43748262621206957542007-05-02T11:45:00.000-05:002007-05-02T11:45:00.000-05:00Sometimes you scare me! I feel that I am inside y...Sometimes you scare me! I feel that I am inside your head or something. In other words, "I feel your pain."<BR/><BR/>life giverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19897950.post-38446623704549188232007-05-02T11:24:00.000-05:002007-05-02T11:24:00.000-05:00Personally, I think those are really valid argumen...Personally, I think those are really valid arguments. It's seeming to me that as time goes on there's a whole relational aspect to my job, especially considering that I like and support the mission of where I work (and I suspect you do to, Dave :)). <BR/><BR/>As far as 2 goes, as well, I've struggled with that temptation in a different context here and really respect the decision.<BR/><BR/>Well Pete Juvinallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11688790195308178112noreply@blogger.com